Those F'ing BASTARDS ...Are they all insane??
FBI memo reports Guantanamo guards flushing KoranWhat a bunch of sick idiots. Let's have a few more Muslim riots. Let's have more people die. Let's make the recruiting lines for suicide bombers even longer. Let's have more of our service men and women come home in body bags.
Wed May 25, 2005 7:58 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An FBI agent wrote in a 2002 document made public on Wednesday that a detainee held at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, had accused American jailers there of flushing the Koran down a toilet.
The Pentagon said the allegation was not credible.
The declassified document's release came the week after the Bush administration denounced as wrong a May 9 Newsweek article that stated U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo had flushed a Koran down a toilet to try to make detainees talk. The magazine retracted the article, which had triggered protests in Afghanistan in which 16 people died.
The newly released document, dated Aug. 1, 2002, contained a summary of statements made days earlier by a detainee, whose name was redacted, in two interviews with an FBI special agent, whose name also was withheld, at the Guantanamo prison for foreign terrorism suspects.
The American Civil Liberties Union released the memo and other FBI documents it obtained from the government under court order through the Freedom of Information Act.
"Personally, he has nothing against the United States. The guards in the detention facility do not treat him well. Their behavior is bad. About five months ago, the guards beat the detainees. They flushed a Koran in the toilet," the FBI agent wrote.
"It's not credible," chief Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said of the allegation regarding a Koran in a toilet.
Di Rita said the U.S. military questioned the detainee on May 14, and that the man was "very cooperative and answered the questions but did not corroborate the allegation recorded on Aug. 1, 2002." Di Rita said he did not know whether the man actually recanted the allegation.
"These kind of, sort of, fantastic charges about our guys doing something willfully heinous to a Koran for the purposes of rattling detainees are not credible on their face," Di Rita told reporters.
HOLY BOOK
The documents indicated that detainees were making allegations that they had been abused and that the Muslim holy book had been mishandled as early as April 2002, about three months after the first detainees arrived at Guantanamo.
In other documents, FBI agents stated that Guantanamo detainees also accused U.S. personnel of kicking the Koran and throwing it to the floor, and described beatings by guards. But one document cited a detainee who accused a guard of dropping a Koran, prompting an "uprising" by prisoners, when it was the prisoner himself who dropped it.
"Unfortunately, one thing we've learned over the last couple of years is that detainee statements about their treatment at Guantanamo and other detention centers sometimes have turned out to be more credible than U.S. government statements," said ACLU lawyer Jameel Jaffer. [ED: Any surprise there?]
Former detainees and a lawyer for current prisoners previously have stated that U.S. personnel at Guantanamo had placed the Koran in a toilet, but the Pentagon has said it also does not view those allegations as credible.
In document written in April 2003, an FBI agent related a detainee's account of an incident involving a female U.S. interrogator.
"While the guards held him, she removed her blouse, embraced the detainee from behind and put her hand on his genitals. The interrogator was on her menstrual period and she wiped blood from her body on his face and head," the memo stated.
A similar incident was described in a recent book written by a former Guantanamo interrogator.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan last week said Newsweek "got the facts wrong" and Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman called the article "demonstrably false." Di Rita said last week the Pentagon had received "no credible and specific allegations" that U.S. personnel had put a Koran in the toilet.
Sick bastards. The MSM doesn't give a rat's ass about anything except for circulation. Screw them. Send the bastards out on a pizza run in Iraq right next to an IED and see how they like it.
Gads, I'm so friggen mad right now I could just friggen explode.
How the hell do you flush a Koran down a toilet? Tell me that. Again, sick propaganda being spewed forth by media ghouls. And we and others around the world are going to have to pay the price.
That's a prisoner's word--and of course the MSM eats it up and reports it as if it were friggen gospel, while being spoon-fed by the ever-so-nonpartisan ACLU. The FBI statements are just that. Statements. Uncorroborated. But as Newsweek and others so aptly coined the addage: Don't let an uncorroborated story get in the way of a good U.S. smear piece--and if we can take some soldiers down, so much the better! Screw the consequences!.
After the Newsweek debacle, the MSM has decided to circle the wagons. You can also read about it here and here, here, and here. Hell, even Calypso Louie is getting into the act. I suppose if enough ghoulish bastards report on the same thing.. and say the same thing enough times in enough places, just like any good propaganda, it will become true.
These ghouls report on uncorroborated "fairy tales" without taking one second to ponder whether they should.
Rather than learning from their missteps, the MSM has now apparently taken a step in normalizing the reporting of uncorroborated stories. Make no mistake about it. This is the beginning of an undeclared war on fact checking and the blogosphere through sheer will; no more will they kowtow to scrutiny by paeons. It is now clear that they will fight to keep what they perceive as their god-ordained right to print whatever the hell they please, whatever the hell the consequences And if they take down some American lives in the process? Hey, it's just collateral damage in the war, then, isn't it?
***update****
This from Powerline:
This story is absurd on its face. What about the "similar incident" described by the former Guantanamo interrogator? Presumably Reuters refers to the recent book by Erik Saar, the only book-writing former interrogator I know of. I heard Saar relate this story on the radio, only it wasn't blood, it was red ink, and there was nothing about the female soldier removing her blouse, etc. "Similar," indeed.
This story has been marked by two features, I think: lousy reporting, and a desperate desire on the part of leftists worldwide to believe that assertions made by Guantanamo detainees, no matter how outlandish and uncorroborated, are true.
It will be interesting to see this non-story's ability to sprout legs in the coming days.
****UPDATE****
Rush has a similar take:
But, oh, no. Mainstream press has to circle the wagons and protect their own inside Washington, DC, and I told you to be on the lookout because we were going to see a spate of stories about how this was true anyway even though Newsweek got this instance wrong, that this was true anyway. So you read the New York Times story, "The prisoners' accounts are described by the agents in detailed summaries of interrogations at Guantanamo in 2002 and 2003. The documents were among more than 300 pages turned over by the F.B.I. to the American Civil Liberties Union in recent days and publicly disclosed Wednesday." So it's the same story, it's the same allegation by the same wacko detainee, but the press writes about it today as though it's brand-new, a new story, a new allegation when it's the same one, it's three years old and there's no corroboration for it. The only difference is that the report in which the allegation is contained has been made public, this is the report that Newsweek did not make public, that they obviously have a source on who was wrong.
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